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--Zephyrus (talk) 04:53, 31 March 2017 (JST)

provisory scriptorium


I created a provisory page for the community talk - see User talk:-jkb-/Temporary Scriptorium, regards -jkb- (talk) 16:32, 31 March 2017 (JST) - - - P.S. I don't want to present it in the sidebar now, so pls note this for you.

Restore Feedback

Hi Simon Peter Hughes, Welcome. I'm helping get the server restored. If you see anything that is missing or not working as expected, please let me know. Thanks! --Jeffmcneill (talk) 23:48, 31 March 2017 (JST)

Wikilivres Status Update

Hi Simon. There is a new status update available. It includes info on the restore, and the domain name. --Jeffmcneill (talk) 01:39, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Welcome project

Is this one better? Ideas to ameliorate it?

A lot of frowning candiess and one smiling one


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--Zephyrus (talk) 09:59, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


i moved it here for 2 reasons;

1. given how things have developed @ ws/en, i do not know if or when it may be deleted; quite possibly arbitrarily, by a particular admin.

2. it is not finished proofing; even for ocr, nvm for the formatting, & i will not be returning to ws/en to complete proofing the copy there.

please undelete? such decisions really should not be made arbitrarily, & without discussion. especially when we have not agreed the future operating plans of this project.

to be clear; i do not object to "migrating" suitable texts to ws, when they can be guaranteed not to be deleted there.

i do not, however want to have to upload the same content for a 3rd time...


Lx 121 (talk) 04:59, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

(also; if you are going to delete it here, you might at least fix the link on the author's biblio-page)

But it's still on Wikisource and it looks like it's going to remain. I know that some of the Mencken texts you added there have been deleted there but others have not. If it is deleted on Wikisource, I will restore it here.
Surely now, as in the past, the point of this wiki is to host material that cannot be hosted on Wikisource because it's still under copyright in the United States. We do not need lots of duplicates of pages that are already on Wikisource. For that reason, I have also just deleted the chapters of Cosmos, which you also know very well are on Wikisource because you put them there.
I will fix the links on the author pages when those pages are in a decent state for editing. That will be after all the templates and the interwiki links are sorted out. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 05:20, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

clean up

Hi, I see you are cleaning up sime pages at the moment, that's fine. Nevertheless, I see one problem with some of them: I found one page with up to 1.4 MB (!!!) what is not only full unusual both in Wikilivres and Wikisource, but you can load such page with a good computer only, not with tablet, mobile phone or such devices. Normally such huge püages must (!) be devided into some more smaller ones (toms, chapters, etc.). I think we cannot offer our visitors such "bombs" :-) - are you like suggest something in this case? Regards -jkb- (talk) 16:57, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I completely and utterly agree with you. I do not want to see huge pages which contain the entire text of a novel-length book either. Unfortunately, nearly all of the many pages that have been added since January this year have been exactly like that. I haven't added any of those pages myself. I have just been trying to make them look half-way decent. I've been doing that by removing content that shouldn't be here as a result of the page being copypasted from Project Gutenberg or some other site, adding the title template and making sure that there are proper divisions between paragraphs. On the old Wikilivres, I used to see warnings while editing saying that pages was a thousand times larger than some browsers could cope with.
You should really talk to user Lx 121 who has been adding all of those pages. Although I warn you, he is likely to get very upset by anything you have to say about them.
I would certainly like all pages for novel-length books to look ,like the one I created for A Warning to the Curious and Other Ghost Stories. The main page for books that long should be a page of links that goes to other sub-pages. In the case of The Birth of Britain, there should be one page that leads to links for Book I, Book II and Book III. Each of those pages should be made up of links to the individual chapters.
I understand that adding the text of an entire novel here should be a lengthy process and that adding an author's entire works could take years.
If you would like to start dividing those long pages into separate pages for each chapter, please go right ahead. If you think you can tell me how to do it, please go ahead and try. I have to tell you though, I'm not very computer literate. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 04:55, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Answer here - thanks and regards, -jkb- (talk) 09:52, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

biblio work


just to let you know, i have started a huge, comprehensive bibliography @ edgar rice burroughs (since i had to re-create it anyway).

please don't panic. if you want to work on it with me, feel free :) if not, then please be patient, & let me work @ it.

i've already integrated the tiny amount of erb content we had into the biblio; need to decide on how best to format it, what listings to include/exclude (as a library geek, i tend to favour thorough-ness in bibliographies), & to add links to erb content elsewhere (at least until it's either here, or @ ws/en).

& how are things in your world?

Lx 121 (talk) 01:40, 8 April 2017 (UTC)


Hi! I see that you speak Esperanto. It would be fine if you can help to translate some words, phrases and templates to lokalize the language, please. I add Esperanto to Bibliowiki:Localization table. Regards Electron   17:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

your recent edits to aa milne, & bibliography policy


why did you remove useful links to aa milne material that we do not presently have copies of?

this makes our website LESS USEFUL for end users

also, why would you remove info from the bibliography? it doesn't matter whether we can host the illustrations or not, this is still PART OF THE BIBLIOGRAPHICAL INFORTMATION, also useful for end-users.

there is no rule that "if it's not on wikilivres it doesn't exist".

i don't really care about your removing the redlinks, but when it is for content that we CAN host, you are literally making more work for us, because eventually somebody is going to have to go back & RE-create the links you have deleted.

you have been pretty free about criticising my work on the wiki, recently; especially in characterising it as sloppy & careless. please put more thought into your own actions?

with all due respect,

Lx 121 (talk) 06:27, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Would you like me to translate The Little Prince?

I have a degree in Modern Languages (French and Spanish). I've read Le Petit Prince several times in French. I've never read it in English so I shouldn't be influenced by any already existing translation of it. could do a better job of translating it than some machine. And my translation, of course, would be completely copyright free. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 12:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

If you are interested in doing that, I would encourage you. Perhaps a CC-BY-SA license? I am also interested in getting this into print (or at least ebook). There are many Life+50 countries. I think it might be faster to use the machine translation first, then go through for cleanup. --Sysadmin (talk) 13:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
That would definitely be less time demanding. OK, When the machine translation is completed. I will re-read the book in French and then try to turn the automatic translation into a work of art! Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 13:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

re: A Short View of Gamalielese

dear simon peter hughes;

for at least the 4th or 5th time:

NO, this article is NOT "missing text".

if you would stop & read the whole article, BEFORE deleting it, you would realise this.

i have even gone back & compared the copy with its sources.




i invite you to go & read the sources, & COMPARE them with the copy we have here, which you have now deleted at least 2 or 3 times,

& please, kindly


& if you really can't understand the writing style, then please just leave it alone.

i am sorry if i seem cross, but you are being very "dense" on this one! >__<


Lx 121 (talk) 09:36, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

separate topic

re: churchill, mencken

i've found better copies (i.e.: clean copy digital text) of "chrestomathy" & the churchill histories.

are you ok with it it i "overwrite" the existing material?

wanted to ask you first, rather than just doing it, since you've been putting in the effort on proofing; & thank-you for that!

the improved texts would need formatting changes for mediawiki (i cannot get pandora to work), but they are otherwise typo-free.

please let me know which way you want to go with that? (y/n)

Lx 121 (talk) 09:45, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

If they are better quality, then yes. Please go ahead. Simon Peter Hughes (talk)

hello. birth of britain is (back) up;

i'd suggest using page-sectioning for the chapters & subdivisions, then add a TOC instruction to the page; at least as an 'intermediate stage' towards full wikisource-style (page per chapter).

the numerals that appear as non-sequiturs in the text are for annotations/footnotes, NOT page numbers.

not sure what is the best way of handling those, & the index (shortcut-links would be good, obviously; but a lot of work)

if you like, i can send you copies of the books privately (epub or mobi), but can't post them on here, because of copyvio elements in the contents.

will try to add a new book every day or two, schedule permitting.

if you find or have something that can auto-convert epub or mobi into mediawiki foprmatting DO let me know? still have not got pandoc to work... >__<

best, & hope this finds you well

Lx 121 (talk) 18:43, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

challenge from beyond

2 reasons:

1. because the original text is set up that way; italics, hyphenation, etc.; i don't want to alter that, & it looks very odd w/o the linebreaks in the right places.

2. because as far as i can determine, this is literally the first time the text has ever been digitised; at the very least it is quite probably the only digitised text of the original printing, & i could only find solid references to 1 reprint of the story (ever), of unknown quality, by some obscure-specialist indie press, circa 1980s or 90s; not sure if that was ever turned into an ebook. many sources didn't even differentiate it from the better-known "twin-titled" fantasy story partly written by lovecraft. in short, we are the one & only online source for this, & since i'm hand-typing it all out anyway, i might as well get it "right".

think of it as scifi/specfic "scholarship"? xD


Lx 121 (talk) 21:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

re: churchill


about the illustrations, tables, etc.

if you can get me a list of the items & their locations in the texts, i can probably extract them from the ebook.

we would have to sort out which ones we can & cannot use (for copyright)

but simple tables & things like family trees should be free & clear.

& possibly we could get someone to redo the maps from "clean" commons materials.

am asking you (for the list), since you're the one working with the texts & you'd be best-placed to tell what is needed. saves us both duplicating the same work.

or i can just send you the texts, email or something?

best, & thanks for all the effort on these! :)

Lx 121 (talk) 07:32, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Well, Appendix B in The World Crisis Volume I: 1911-1914 is meant to be a Table of Fleet Strength. The table isn't here. Some of the footnotes in that work say, "See map>" No other details are given about the maps. Missing maps don't seem to be a problem for The Birth of Britain or The New World. It would be nice to have similar maps based on images from Commons, though. I don't yet know if missing material is a problem in The Gathering Storm or Marlborough: His Life and Times, Book One. It might be. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 13:26, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Bibliowiki Donations needed for Expenses for August 2017 (and rest of year)

Hello, I'm contacting directly active users of Bibliowiki who have not yet donated for the hosting costs in 2017. For August, 2017 (and indeed for each month moving forward) we are looking for one or two donations of $7. Our current monthly costs are minimal, but not free. Active users put in time and effort, and we are all grateful as a community. Bibliowiki is not affiliated nor does it receive any technical or monetary support outside of its own editors. Therefore financial donations are needed as well to keep the community up and running. For July there were five active users with many edits, who have not yet donated. If each of the five donate then we will have hit our goal for the year (and you won't have to hear more from me about this until 2018). Can you help? Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. --Sysadmin (talk) 05:06, 4 August 2017 (UTC)



why did you block this one? i can't find anything "bad" that he did; spam or otherwise? Lx 121 (talk) 21:04, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

His user page was a classic spam bot user page. It said, "Hi, I'm from Germany. I like... My family likes.. Here's my blog", followed by an external link. Of course, if you clicked on the link, it didn't take you to a blog at all, it took you to a commercial website. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 06:07, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

End of year donation drive

Hi Simon Peter Hughes, Thank you for your valuable contributions to I'd like to make a request to help fund the monthly server costs. I don't have any record of a money donation from this account (but maybe it was done anonymously or under another name, please let me know). We don't need much, but it costs more than zero dollars/euro/rubles to keep the site running. Paypal of $10 USD (or any other amount) would be very welcome at this time. Thanks for all your help on the site! --Sysadmin (talk) 09:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)